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millybess

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Re: Excel Airways
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2005, 02:03:00 PM »
Very good point westwoman.  I think I'd rather have a 24 hour delay in Cuba!  :duh:

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2005, 02:11:00 PM »
That's absolutely true millybess, I do agree with you.   Better safe than sorry.

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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2005, 03:22:00 AM »
Thanks for the info, can put up with a bit of discomfort for 4 hours, might even get a decent plane, as long as it get there in one peice we will be happy

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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2005, 03:41:00 AM »
Garin:
 
 Yes four hours isn't too long to endure is it?   It's those transatlantic ones that are never very enjoyable after the first few times, but the end result is usually well worth the discomfort that you have to put up with I find.

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2005, 06:12:00 AM »
Yes they are well worth the effort, unfortunatly Val has an absolute fear of flying, 2 hours to Europe is  one thing 9 hours was just to much, we are seriously thinking about getting some medication next time, hopefully this will help her, at the moment even think about a trip to Portugal in Sept is getting her worked up.

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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2005, 06:36:00 AM »
Never realised that SWMBO had a fear of flying.  I can well understand her lack of enthusiasm for flying transatlantic in that case.   Even 4 hours to Israel will not be a picnic for her either.
 
 I've done 40 transatlantic flights and am now finding them to be rather a bind, but if I want to holiday in caribbean destinations and visit Canada and the USA I have little option.

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2005, 09:16:00 AM »
It's time we had one of those teleport things that they have on star trek.  
 
 Beam me up Scottie     :)
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2005, 09:43:00 AM »
Heather:
 
 Now wouldn't that be great.   No more suffering airline food, and you could nip back home every time Canadian Idol or Corrie was on TV.

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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2005, 05:30:00 PM »
OK peeps sorry about the delay ..... work etc etc
 
 This is our take on the whole deal ..... READY !
 
 Our holiday started with a less than pleasant airport check-in experience.  We were handed a letter at the desk saying that there had been a change to our plane.  The girl at the desk was very miserable and calmly announced that we had 3 kgs of excess baggage to pay for.  This cost us £24 and until we’d paid for it we wouldn’t get our boarding cards.  At no point did she ask us if we wanted to remove anything from our cases.
 
 The plane was very cramped and everyone was complaining that their knees were touching the seats in front of them.  It was also dirty.  We had to stop at Gander in Canada for refuelling.  We booked Santa Maria solely because it had a direct flight.  Once we landed we waited 1 and a half hours in the blazing sunshine to get into Cuba, due to power cuts crashing the computer at the immigration desks.  Once Thomas Cook took over things went smoothly and we were soon in our room.
 
 We found out once we arrived in Cuba that the plane hadn’t been big enough for all the passengers and 80 people didn’t manage to board at all.  We heard they were delayed overnight and given £70 compensation.  They then had to pay for their own transport to Heathrow, where they had a flight to Madrid, then to Havana.  They were offered an overnight stay in Havana with free entry to the Tropicana show, or they could travel straight to Santa Maria by Coach.  Had this been offered at check-in, they may have had 80 happy volunteers!
 
 We then had a lovely 2 weeks, the food wasn’t as good as we had at Playa Pesquero or the Iberostar Daquiri but we figured we’d been spoilt there.  Someone needs to teach them how to make Pizza, or they should stop trying.
 
 Homeward bound we left for the airport in the 1st batch of coaches and pulled out of the hotel grounds at 11.50 am.  We were one of the 1st to check our cases in and get through to the departure lounge.  Eventually the lounge was over occupied and there weren’t enough seats for all 300+ people.  The incoming flight landed at 3.30 pm, just over half an hour late.  Not bad we thought as we weren’t due to fly until 4.55pm.  Within a few minutes people were looking at the plane and pointing at something the opposite side to which we could see, just to the right of the front steps.  This turned out to be an emergency slide and we knew we wouldn’t be leaving on time now.  The whole of the airport was buzzing with what on earth happened and would we still be able to go home.  (We found out later that one of the aircrew accidentally set if off.)  It was hours before anybody came to tell us what was happening.
 
 A Cuban man came and spoke to us twice.  He told us a plane was coming from somewhere else to take 80 passengers, 140 or so would be able to go on the existing plane and they would need 42 volunteers to stay.  It was about 3 hours before we saw a Thomas Cook representative…….not a soul from the Excel crew.  The rep told us less than we already knew, a few passengers told him what the man had told us and he said he would go off and check.  He came back to say there was no plane coming from elsewhere and they were waiting for an engineer to fix the door.  Some 5 hours after it had been deployed, we watched the slide being detached from the plane.  The rep reappeared and told us that the door had been resealed but only 180 people would be able to fly home, due to Health and Safety rules regarding the out of action emergency exit.  They asked for 144 volunteers to stay in Cuba and go back to the same hotel.  After some time, he came back and asked for more volunteers.  He re-appeared again to announce, unfortunately all of us would have to go back to the hotels.  The Excel crew made an appearance to hand out small cups of water and then vanished.  Where was the Captain/Pilot and why didn’t he speak to us??
 
 In order for us to leave the airport, we all had to have our Tourist Cards back.  The elderly, people with special needs and families with young children were asked to go back into the check-in area to collect their cards 1st.  The Immigration staff then came through to the departure lounge and we were lucky (we thought) to be the 1st of the rest to get our cards back.  We rushed through to the check-in area to find all the others still waiting.  Immigration wouldn’t let anyone out until we ALL had our cards back.  So the people who needed to sit down the most, had been standing the longest!  When we were finally allowed out to reclaim our suitcases it was chucking it down with rain.  I went to claim our cases whilst my wife sought shelter outside.  Whilst she was waiting the rep reappeared to announce there was a flight from Havana to Gatwick at 3.30 am and to go to a certain coach if we wanted to take it.  Armed with our cases we made our way to the Havana coach, it was full.  We were then told there were 2 other coaches to Havana.  The rep then announced the flight was via Madrid.  We made our way in the pouring rain to the other end of the airport and saw our Rep from the hotel, Yasmin.  My wife went over to Yasmin to ask advice, we decided to forget Havana and go to get a nights sleep back at the Melia.  The next problem was that all the coaches appeared to be full.  We made our way back to the side of the airport to seek shelter from the rain, we were drenched now.  The male rep came over and told us there were more coaches the other side of the airport, so we ventured out again.  The 1st coach was full, as was the 2nd.  Yasmin appeared and got us onto a small mini-bus, the poor girl was being run ragged but still remained calm and helping people out.  We were finally out of the rain.  We waited for all the seats to be taken on our mini-bus, some people had to put their cases on a coach and get in with us and then we finally moved and got in a queue the 1st coach.  Once the reps felt everyone was on a coach we set-off for the Melia.
 
 We drove back into the Melia grounds at 11.50 pm, exactly 12 hours after we had left that morning.  The buffet restaurant had been opened as we had only been given Pringles, a soft drink and water at the airport.  Once we’d eaten we were given a room key and taken to our room.  We put the aircon on and went back to the bar, for a well needed drink.  My wife said Cuba Libre had never tasted so good.  We met a Canadian at the bar who said he’d heard some Brits never got home.  We replied, we’re those Brits!  We saw the rep who said we needed to be back at reception, ready to leave at 8 am.
 
 Back at reception after some sleep and a shower for 8 am, we were handed a letter stating our flight should be leaving at 1 pm.  We would be boarding the coaches at 10pm, so we went off for some breakfast.
 
 Back at the airport, check-in not too bad.  The cases were taken quickly and we were told to keep our original seats.  12.50 pm and the Excel Crew arrived, so much for a 1 pm flight!  
 
 At last boarding started, rows 1 to 5 and 20 to the end boarded 1st.  We were row 8.  The seats in rows 6 to 19 were taped off and we had to be seated elsewhere due to the out of action emergency exit.  
 
 The Captain finally spoke to us on board the aircraft.  He said there had been a Technical problem with the plane and the problem today was getting food for the flight.  Once they had the food, there was no transport to deliver it to the airport.
 
 We eventually took off at 3.15 pm, 1 hour and 40 minutes shy of 24 hours!
 
 The final insult for us, was the fact the sound wasn’t working for many of the seats in row 1-5 and those that did have sound couldn’t see the screen.  We had an 8 hours flight with no entertainment.  We heard that they were running out of meals at the back of the plane and witnessed the Excel crew robbing milk and cups from what looked like old meals.  We actually felt sorry for the Crew by this point.  
 
 We finally landed in the UK at 4.20 am and we couldn’t wait to get home.  We have been back for a week and there has been no apology letter from either Excel or Thomas Cook.  This leaves us very disappointed.  We were treated very badly and we expected better.  Needless to say, we shall be writing to them both.
 
 
 Nige & Mia the wife

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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2005, 05:52:00 PM »
Well Nige that is horrendous.  I really slagged Ex hell off in my trip review and what you have said only proves how right I was.
 
 I flagged up on the lead post on this thread that there appeared to be a major problem with your flight but I never ever thought it could possibly be as bad as what you have described.
 
 I have written to Thomas Cook saying that as a seasoned traveller to Cuba with them I will no longer be flying with them whilst they continue to use Excel as a carrier.   Their planes are just not suitable for transatlantic travel.
 
 Obviously you will need financial compensation and I would hit them hard.   You can quote from my experience on May 1st and my return flight on May 15th if you like (you'll find my review in the Trip Reports at the top of the page).    My journey was nothing to yours but the problems were there to see on May 1st and May 15th so one would have expected them to have been corrected by May 29th.   That 767 200 series aircraft needs scrapping.
 
 Thanks for posting such a comprehensive report of your journey from hell and welcome home.

millybess

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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2005, 05:56:00 PM »
Nige, that would probably turn me off transatlantic travel forever.  I'm very sorry this happened to you.  However, I'm glad you had an enjoyable two weeks in Cuba.  One wouldn't have been enough.
 
 bellagio, I take it back.  Maybe I would rather have bulldog's flight.

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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2005, 06:02:00 PM »
Welcome back
 
 Excellent report, but I'm sorry that you had to live through all that.  
 
 Thanks for posting that.
 
 I hope you will be well compensated for your troubles.  I have a feeling that you will have to fight for it though.  
 
 Good Luck
 
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bellagio

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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2005, 06:16:00 PM »
From Excel's website:
 
 December 2004
 
 EXCEL AIRWAYS AWARDED "WORLD`S LEADING CHARTER AIRLINE" FOR 2004  
 
 On the 11th of December 2004 at the World Travel Awards in Barbados, Excel Airways was presented with the award of "Worlds Leading Charter Airline" for 2004. This award was from votes by travel agents and tour operators in the past year and follows on from the Daily Telegraph readers voting Excel Airways "Best Charter Airline" in October 2004. It shows that our product and service really are the best.

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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2005, 06:25:00 AM »
Nige
 
 Your report on your journey with Excel is absolutely shocking mate. I was on the flight before yours with Mr B and Avid, so kinda understand what you went through, but this is unbelivable.
 
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2005, 07:58:00 AM »
Wossa:
 
 Makes you wonder what we were complaining about really doesn't with regard to our flights with Excel?  That's another one of their fleet out of service for a while I would imagine, I wonder what aircraft they will dig up to fly the route this coming Sunday.
 
 Can you imagine what it must have been like cooped up in that cattle pen at Santa Clara Airport for that length of time.
 
 I'll bet the reps had a nightmare that day, because first of all they had to get all the incoming passengers back to the Sol and Melia and then organise the coaches back to the airport to sort out Nige and Co. who were flying home.  Who'd want to be a rep?
 
 The flight from hell with Ex hell!!!