After much cursing and swearing

and calling my ISP everyname under the sun and a few that are not, I have to take it all back well most of it, it appers that the problem was not with the server but with the computer, the internet was down from last night to this morning, whilst setting up one of the lads new laptop I got on the internet, it connects via a wireless router from my computer, on checking both the computers that connect via the router they both worked fine, I still didn't have internet access

on doing a system restore the internet kicked in, the internet has been down before it looks like I was looking in the wrong direction still don't know what caused it though, pewters don't you just love them
